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Romans 9

October 29, 2010
by Susan Barnes
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Susan Barnes

~ writer of insightful posts about God and faith

16 thoughts on “Romans 9”

  1. The main point here seems to be: God’s in charge.

    The Message Bible on v.31-33
    “And Israel, who seemed so interested in reading and talking about what God was doing missed it. How could they miss it? Because instead of trusting God, they took over. They were absorbed in what they themselves were doing. They were so absorbed in their “God Projects” that they didn’t notice God right in front of them, like a huge rock in the middle of the road. And so they stumbled into him and went sprawling.”

    Wow! that’s a challenge for today.

  2. The main point here seems to be: God’s in charge.

    The Message Bible on v.31-33
    “And Israel, who seemed so interested in reading and talking about what God was doing missed it. How could they miss it? Because instead of trusting God, they took over. They were absorbed in what they themselves were doing. They were so absorbed in their “God Projects” that they didn’t notice God right in front of them, like a huge rock in the middle of the road. And so they stumbled into him and went sprawling.”

    Wow! that’s a challenge for today.

  3. jON

    it is just god’s choice that those who respond with faith and love him get to be his children and those who disobey him have their hearts become hard. it is god’s choice, and he can harden anyone he wants to ! so, he has chosen to harden anyone who is disobedient.

    it’s his rule, if you don’t like it, too bad! you can’t be disobedient all your life and then ask after you are hardened, “why did you make me like this?”

  4. jON

    it is just god’s choice that those who respond with faith and love him get to be his children and those who disobey him have their hearts become hard. it is god’s choice, and he can harden anyone he wants to ! so, he has chosen to harden anyone who is disobedient.

    it’s his rule, if you don’t like it, too bad! you can’t be disobedient all your life and then ask after you are hardened, “why did you make me like this?”

  5. Yes I agree. It is His rule. He is the Potter we are the clay.

    “Yours is the kingdom, Yours is power, Yours is the glory, forever and ever. Amen.”

  6. Yes I agree. It is His rule. He is the Potter we are the clay.

    “Yours is the kingdom, Yours is power, Yours is the glory, forever and ever. Amen.”

  7. Really love the way The Message puts v.31

    And Israel, who seemed so interested in reading and talking about what God was doing, missed it. How could they miss it? Because instead of trusting God, they took over. They were absorbed in what they themselves were doing. They were so absorbed in their "God projects" that they didn't notice God right in front of them…

    Although Paul wrote this to describe the Jews it applies equally well to us today. We often get so wrapped up in our "God projects" that we miss God.

  8. Really love the way The Message puts v.31

    And Israel, who seemed so interested in reading and talking about what God was doing, missed it. How could they miss it? Because instead of trusting God, they took over. They were absorbed in what they themselves were doing. They were so absorbed in their "God projects" that they didn't notice God right in front of them…

    Although Paul wrote this to describe the Jews it applies equally well to us today. We often get so wrapped up in our "God projects" that we miss God.

  9. V.5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised!

    Jesus – fully human, fully God

  10. V.5 Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them is traced the human ancestry of Christ, who is God over all, forever praised!

    Jesus – fully human, fully God

  11. v.6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.

    Paul finished chapter 8 by saying nothing could separate us from God's love. Likewise nothing can separate the Jews from God's love, even though presently they have not accepted God's love in Jesus.

  12. v.6 It is not as though God’s word had failed. For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.

    Paul finished chapter 8 by saying nothing could separate us from God's love. Likewise nothing can separate the Jews from God's love, even though presently they have not accepted God's love in Jesus.

  13. v. 11-13 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

    (From Constable's Commentary) "If God's love of Jacob consists in his choosing Jacob to be the 'seed' who would inherit the blessings promised to Abraham, then God's hatred of Esau is best understood to refer to God's decision not to bestow this privilege on Esau"

    It is interesting to note that God did also bless Esau though Jacob had the privileged position.

  14. v. 11-13 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

    (From Constable's Commentary) "If God's love of Jacob consists in his choosing Jacob to be the 'seed' who would inherit the blessings promised to Abraham, then God's hatred of Esau is best understood to refer to God's decision not to bestow this privilege on Esau"

    It is interesting to note that God did also bless Esau though Jacob had the privileged position.

  15. v. 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

    (From Constable's Commentary) "In chapter 1 the apostle had spoken about the way God gives people over to their own evil desires as a form of punishment for their sins. This is how God hardens people's hearts. In Pharaoh's case we see this working out clearly. God was not unjust because He allowed the hardening process to continue."

  16. v. 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

    (From Constable's Commentary) "In chapter 1 the apostle had spoken about the way God gives people over to their own evil desires as a form of punishment for their sins. This is how God hardens people's hearts. In Pharaoh's case we see this working out clearly. God was not unjust because He allowed the hardening process to continue."

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