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Revelation 1

January 30, 2009

Here’s how the study works: Read the chapter mentioned in the heading several times during the week and share any words, thoughts, verses that stood out to you. Having a week for a chapter creates the opportunity to reread it several times and make additional comments as you feel inclined as well as make comments on other people’s insights.

by Susan Barnes
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Susan Barnes

~ writer of insightful posts about God and faith

28 thoughts on “Revelation 1”

  1. v.5 reminds me of the chorus of a hymn:

    Unto him who hath loved us
    And washed us from sin,
    Unto him be the glory forever. Amen

    It continues in v.6 reminding us it’s all about what God has done for us – He has made us to be a kingdom and priests..

    “To him be glory and power for ever and ever!”

  2. v.5 reminds me of the chorus of a hymn:

    Unto him who hath loved us
    And washed us from sin,
    Unto him be the glory forever. Amen

    It continues in v.6 reminding us it’s all about what God has done for us – He has made us to be a kingdom and priests..

    “To him be glory and power for ever and ever!”

  3. I don’t usually read foot notes but several in this chapter are quite interesting.

    v.7 notes Zech 12:10 where it says, “the one they have pierced”

    v.13 notes Daniel 7:13 where there is a similar description

    v.12-13 uses similar description to Zech 4:2

    So while John uses symbols and descriptions that I am not familiar with, it would seem the original readers were.

  4. I don’t usually read foot notes but several in this chapter are quite interesting.

    v.7 notes Zech 12:10 where it says, “the one they have pierced”

    v.13 notes Daniel 7:13 where there is a similar description

    v.12-13 uses similar description to Zech 4:2

    So while John uses symbols and descriptions that I am not familiar with, it would seem the original readers were.

  5. Be back Susan …

    Have been busy and Rev is a chapter I don’t want to give flippnacy to so I will be back later …

    Hope you have a good time at the wedding … I sooo love weddings 😉

  6. Be back Susan …

    Have been busy and Rev is a chapter I don’t want to give flippnacy to so I will be back later …

    Hope you have a good time at the wedding … I sooo love weddings 😉

  7. It messes with my mind that John thought the time was NEAR that many years ago. 🙂

    The difference between God the Father and Christ is here.

    Jesus is spoken of as the faithful witness and the firstborn of the dead and ruler of the kings of the earth who made us priests to His God … His Father.

    Interesting … it’s like Christ is a human and a God sort of like a mixed breed LOL
    but He is not the head honcho God the father and yet He was God with us Immanuel and He would always say that if one had seen Him one had seen the Father.

    Interesting

    vs 7
    BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him;

    So everyone who has ever lived will see Him when He returns?

    then He says … that is Christ… I’m giving this my educated guess.

    vs 17
    “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.

    He says He is the first and last the alpha and omega … so all through the scriptures we go back and forth

    Is Christ a separate faithful witness/son or is He God Himself?

    It’s a question I have and this is a good example… 🙂

    Where’s jON?

    John saw something very special or he found some magnificent magic mushrooms.

  8. It messes with my mind that John thought the time was NEAR that many years ago. 🙂

    The difference between God the Father and Christ is here.

    Jesus is spoken of as the faithful witness and the firstborn of the dead and ruler of the kings of the earth who made us priests to His God … His Father.

    Interesting … it’s like Christ is a human and a God sort of like a mixed breed LOL
    but He is not the head honcho God the father and yet He was God with us Immanuel and He would always say that if one had seen Him one had seen the Father.

    Interesting

    vs 7
    BEHOLD, HE IS COMING WITH THE CLOUDS, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him;

    So everyone who has ever lived will see Him when He returns?

    then He says … that is Christ… I’m giving this my educated guess.

    vs 17
    “Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades.

    He says He is the first and last the alpha and omega … so all through the scriptures we go back and forth

    Is Christ a separate faithful witness/son or is He God Himself?

    It’s a question I have and this is a good example… 🙂

    Where’s jON?

    John saw something very special or he found some magnificent magic mushrooms.

  9. Thanks for good wishes re: wedding. It went well despite being very hot.

    It seems when the prophets use the word “shortly” they don’t mean it like we do. But rather they look at the big picture of eternity and see that by comparison earthly time is short.

    V.7 is quite interesting, “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him and all peoples on earth”. The Message says, “People from all nations and all times.” So it seems that it is referring to everyone who has ever lived.

    Understanding the relationship between God the Father and Jesus the Son is tricky. I tend to just accept it rather than try to figure it out.

  10. Thanks for good wishes re: wedding. It went well despite being very hot.

    It seems when the prophets use the word “shortly” they don’t mean it like we do. But rather they look at the big picture of eternity and see that by comparison earthly time is short.

    V.7 is quite interesting, “every eye will see him, even those who pierced him and all peoples on earth”. The Message says, “People from all nations and all times.” So it seems that it is referring to everyone who has ever lived.

    Understanding the relationship between God the Father and Jesus the Son is tricky. I tend to just accept it rather than try to figure it out.

  11. jON

    okey dokey. so val has asked me over to talk a bit about this father/son god/jesus relationship. i know that this is a subject many are not willing to look into. and if this makes anyone uncomfortable, i am sorry. just let me know and i’ll stop talking about it.

    right away in the first 2 verses we have some intersting things said.
    v.1 “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him…”
    the wording of this suggests that there is a deliniation between “God” who did the giving and “Him”, jesus, the one to whom the revelation was given. as well, we also read in verse 2 “who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ…” of course this is referring to john and what he is bearing witness to. what is interesting to me is that he draws a line between “the word of god” and “the testimony of jesus.” i find this interesting because john, in his gospel john refers to jesus AS the word of god. now, later in his life, he seems to be drawing a line between the two. weird.

    v. 4-8 give us an even more curious picture. he offers “Grace to you and peace, from…” 3 differing entities.
    1. – “Him who is and who was and who is to come”
    2. – “the seven Spirits who are before His throne” (“His” referring back to “Him who is and who was and who is to come”) and finally-
    3. – “Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth”

    i am exceptionally fascinated that john references SEVEN spirits and not just ONE as we are accustomed to hearing.

    in v.6 john tells us that jesus blood “has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father…” yet again drawing a deliniation between this entity called “God and Father” and the entity called “jesus.” but he backs this up directly by saying that to jesus belongs “the glory and the dominion forever and ever.”

    then there is an enigmatic quote from “the Lord God” in v.8, which is attributed in most bibles through red lettering to jesus. in that quote “jesus” takes upon himself the title of “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” which is the title that john gave to the Father just a few verses before.

    it becomes clear that jesus is worthy of honor and praise and glory and dominion forever and ever and that he is the ruler over the earth. but at the same time, john still seems to draw a line between the 2. between jesus and the Father. which is a line jesus himself often drew when speaking. jesus, the son of the god, has been given dominion and authority over the earth. but it would seem to me, taht god, the father, the ultimate unchangeable spiritual reality, retains his status as The One over ALL of creation. not just the earth and humanity, but over the whole of the universe and eternity.

  12. jON

    okey dokey. so val has asked me over to talk a bit about this father/son god/jesus relationship. i know that this is a subject many are not willing to look into. and if this makes anyone uncomfortable, i am sorry. just let me know and i’ll stop talking about it.

    right away in the first 2 verses we have some intersting things said.
    v.1 “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him…”
    the wording of this suggests that there is a deliniation between “God” who did the giving and “Him”, jesus, the one to whom the revelation was given. as well, we also read in verse 2 “who testified to the word of God and to the testimony of Jesus Christ…” of course this is referring to john and what he is bearing witness to. what is interesting to me is that he draws a line between “the word of god” and “the testimony of jesus.” i find this interesting because john, in his gospel john refers to jesus AS the word of god. now, later in his life, he seems to be drawing a line between the two. weird.

    v. 4-8 give us an even more curious picture. he offers “Grace to you and peace, from…” 3 differing entities.
    1. – “Him who is and who was and who is to come”
    2. – “the seven Spirits who are before His throne” (“His” referring back to “Him who is and who was and who is to come”) and finally-
    3. – “Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth”

    i am exceptionally fascinated that john references SEVEN spirits and not just ONE as we are accustomed to hearing.

    in v.6 john tells us that jesus blood “has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father…” yet again drawing a deliniation between this entity called “God and Father” and the entity called “jesus.” but he backs this up directly by saying that to jesus belongs “the glory and the dominion forever and ever.”

    then there is an enigmatic quote from “the Lord God” in v.8, which is attributed in most bibles through red lettering to jesus. in that quote “jesus” takes upon himself the title of “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.” which is the title that john gave to the Father just a few verses before.

    it becomes clear that jesus is worthy of honor and praise and glory and dominion forever and ever and that he is the ruler over the earth. but at the same time, john still seems to draw a line between the 2. between jesus and the Father. which is a line jesus himself often drew when speaking. jesus, the son of the god, has been given dominion and authority over the earth. but it would seem to me, taht god, the father, the ultimate unchangeable spiritual reality, retains his status as The One over ALL of creation. not just the earth and humanity, but over the whole of the universe and eternity.

  13. The three entities in v.4-8 I took to be God the Father – who is and who was and who is to come; God the Holy Spirit – the sevenfold Spirit; God the Son – the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

    The descriptions I think just reinforce John’s message that God is Sovereign. He oversees history from beginning to end and is looking towards a consummation.

    From my perspective talking about the Father/Son relationship, although interesting, isn’t overly productive because it doesn’t change the way I pray or relate to God.

  14. The three entities in v.4-8 I took to be God the Father – who is and who was and who is to come; God the Holy Spirit – the sevenfold Spirit; God the Son – the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

    The descriptions I think just reinforce John’s message that God is Sovereign. He oversees history from beginning to end and is looking towards a consummation.

    From my perspective talking about the Father/Son relationship, although interesting, isn’t overly productive because it doesn’t change the way I pray or relate to God.

  15. v.6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

    He has made us to be a kingdom and priests – this is not something we do ourselves it is something God does. He is able to take us and make us into priests. How amazing is that.

    (From Constable Commentary) “The New Testament speaks much of believers entering into their rights as first-born sons of God and ruling with Jesus Christ in His millennial kingdom. This will be the privilege of faithful, obedient Christians (cf. 2 Tim. 2:12).”

  16. v.6 and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father—to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.

    He has made us to be a kingdom and priests – this is not something we do ourselves it is something God does. He is able to take us and make us into priests. How amazing is that.

    (From Constable Commentary) “The New Testament speaks much of believers entering into their rights as first-born sons of God and ruling with Jesus Christ in His millennial kingdom. This will be the privilege of faithful, obedient Christians (cf. 2 Tim. 2:12).”

  17. v.19 “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.

    John is to write about the past (what you have seen); the present (what is now); and future (what will take place later). Reading Revelation it is sometimes hard to tell which is what. However we need to have a rough idea of where we are in God’s timetable and a sense of where we are going so when it happens we can say, “Oh, that’s what he meant.”

  18. v.19 “Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.

    John is to write about the past (what you have seen); the present (what is now); and future (what will take place later). Reading Revelation it is sometimes hard to tell which is what. However we need to have a rough idea of where we are in God’s timetable and a sense of where we are going so when it happens we can say, “Oh, that’s what he meant.”

  19. v.1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John.

    God has a million ways of making things known to us. Sending an angel is one of the more unusual ways for him to do this. Nevertheless God will make sure we have all the information we need (though not necessarily all the information we would like!).

  20. v.1 The revelation from Jesus Christ, which God gave him to show his servants what must soon take place. He made it known by sending his angel to his servant John.

    God has a million ways of making things known to us. Sending an angel is one of the more unusual ways for him to do this. Nevertheless God will make sure we have all the information we need (though not necessarily all the information we would like!).

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