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John 13

July 12, 2008

Here’s how the study works: Read the chapter mentioned in the heading several times during the week and share any words, thoughts, verses that stood out to you. Having a week for a chapter creates the opportunity to reread it several times and make additional comments as you feel inclined as well as make comments on other people’s insights.

by Susan Barnes
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Susan Barnes

~ writer of insightful posts about God and faith

28 thoughts on “John 13”

  1. Alison C

    I understand that scripture is THE TRUTH…………but can at times ask, WHY, WHY?
    v. 26-27
    Jesus is LOVE……so why would he give the piece of bread to Judas….when he knew that Satan would then enter into him???
    I understand it was all in God’s plan…….but hard for my simple mind to ‘get’!
    Thankyou all for your prayers.
    “God is good all the time; He puts such joy in this heart of mine”

  2. Alison C

    I understand that scripture is THE TRUTH…………but can at times ask, WHY, WHY?
    v. 26-27
    Jesus is LOVE……so why would he give the piece of bread to Judas….when he knew that Satan would then enter into him???
    I understand it was all in God’s plan…….but hard for my simple mind to ‘get’!
    Thankyou all for your prayers.
    “God is good all the time; He puts such joy in this heart of mine”

  3. Judas is certainly a tricky one to get one’s mind around that Jesus would choose a thief and a betrayer as one of the 12.

    I personally believe it was possible for Judas to repent prior to the betrayal (or even after). If so, God’s purposes would not have been thwarted, someone else would have betrayed Jesus.

  4. Judas is certainly a tricky one to get one’s mind around that Jesus would choose a thief and a betrayer as one of the 12.

    I personally believe it was possible for Judas to repent prior to the betrayal (or even after). If so, God’s purposes would not have been thwarted, someone else would have betrayed Jesus.

  5. It seems like John asks Jesus who is going to betray him, then doesn’t keep track of who Jesus gives the bread to.

    I think v.35 is a most important verse: “By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

  6. It seems like John asks Jesus who is going to betray him, then doesn’t keep track of who Jesus gives the bread to.

    I think v.35 is a most important verse: “By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

  7. v.2 the devil had prompted Judas to betray Jesus and the very next thing we read is, “Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power.” Jesus could have stopped Judas, but didn’t.

    God allows bad things to happen to good people, even Jesus wasn’t exempt.

  8. v.2 the devil had prompted Judas to betray Jesus and the very next thing we read is, “Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power.” Jesus could have stopped Judas, but didn’t.

    God allows bad things to happen to good people, even Jesus wasn’t exempt.

  9. jON

    i know i am late for this party again, but there is some good stuff here and i wanted to share.

    yet another aside from our good friend john in v.28-29. i don’t know why, but i love them. gives it such a human touch that i can relate to.

    v.20 jumped out at me. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.” which, in my mind, immediately connects with something paul later discovered and spoke of in gal.2:20“…it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me…”
    i recall realizing a couple of years ago, that when i was relaxed with people and was myself, that i was indeed sharing jesus with others. for this very reason. because it is he who lives in me and when i share myself, i share him.

    now, reading this again for the first time in a while, jesus amps that up here. it would seem to me, in plain language, that to receive one of jesus’ own is the same as receiving jesus. which is also the same as receiving the father.

    what a strange and different notion than our classical understanding of “evangelism” and “conversion.” not that a person coming to a full understanding of jesus isn’t a genuine or “real” thing, it just seems to me that jesus is saying that, for others, to receive one of his own is the same… interesting.

    v.34-35 jesus says he is giving new commandment. this is huge. commandment hasn’t been given for hundreds of years. in fact, by this point, god has been silent for about 433 years give or take. so for him to add something new, especially something of this nature, is a big deal.

    to love one another. he also says that we can know who his disciples are by those who have love for one another. which causes me to wonder, does he mean that those who have love for one another are his disciples, even if they are unaware? i simply ask because i have met many who have extreme love for others but would not mark themselves as “christians” or “believers.” hmmm…

  10. jON

    i know i am late for this party again, but there is some good stuff here and i wanted to share.

    yet another aside from our good friend john in v.28-29. i don’t know why, but i love them. gives it such a human touch that i can relate to.

    v.20 jumped out at me. “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who receives whomever I send receives Me; and he who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.” which, in my mind, immediately connects with something paul later discovered and spoke of in gal.2:20“…it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me…”
    i recall realizing a couple of years ago, that when i was relaxed with people and was myself, that i was indeed sharing jesus with others. for this very reason. because it is he who lives in me and when i share myself, i share him.

    now, reading this again for the first time in a while, jesus amps that up here. it would seem to me, in plain language, that to receive one of jesus’ own is the same as receiving jesus. which is also the same as receiving the father.

    what a strange and different notion than our classical understanding of “evangelism” and “conversion.” not that a person coming to a full understanding of jesus isn’t a genuine or “real” thing, it just seems to me that jesus is saying that, for others, to receive one of his own is the same… interesting.

    v.34-35 jesus says he is giving new commandment. this is huge. commandment hasn’t been given for hundreds of years. in fact, by this point, god has been silent for about 433 years give or take. so for him to add something new, especially something of this nature, is a big deal.

    to love one another. he also says that we can know who his disciples are by those who have love for one another. which causes me to wonder, does he mean that those who have love for one another are his disciples, even if they are unaware? i simply ask because i have met many who have extreme love for others but would not mark themselves as “christians” or “believers.” hmmm…

  11. I hadn’t really noticed the little asides John gives until you pointed them out, Jon. They realy are very helpful.

    It seems as Christians we like to put up fences and say who’s in and who’s out but as you read the gospels the fences are not as clear as we seem to think. God is constantly working in a person’s life to draw them to Himself and it is not always clear to us where they are at. We need to cut them some slack (that is, not expect them to conform to our timetable) and allow God to do His work.

  12. I hadn’t really noticed the little asides John gives until you pointed them out, Jon. They realy are very helpful.

    It seems as Christians we like to put up fences and say who’s in and who’s out but as you read the gospels the fences are not as clear as we seem to think. God is constantly working in a person’s life to draw them to Himself and it is not always clear to us where they are at. We need to cut them some slack (that is, not expect them to conform to our timetable) and allow God to do His work.

  13. Anonymous

    you said, “God allows bad things to happen to good people, even Jesus wasn’t exempt.”

    i’m sorry but i do not agree with that. first of all, no one is good. secondly, bad things do happen not becaus God allows it, but because people have a choice and they are willing to do it.

    people get abused and raped not because God allows it, but because people choose to do it.

  14. Anonymous

    you said, “God allows bad things to happen to good people, even Jesus wasn’t exempt.”

    i’m sorry but i do not agree with that. first of all, no one is good. secondly, bad things do happen not becaus God allows it, but because people have a choice and they are willing to do it.

    people get abused and raped not because God allows it, but because people choose to do it.

  15. Hello anonymous,
    You have made several good points here. My comment, God allows bad things to happen to good people, was actually a reference to a book that has been very popular called, when bad things happen to good people. I probably should have made that clearer.

    I agree no one is good – Jesus himself said so and I agree people have choices and often make bad choices which hurt other people.

    However I also believe God has the power to intervene and protect people from “bad things” even the bad choices of others. I know of times when He has but I also know of times when He has not.

    Therefore what I am saying here is that God could have intervened here and stopped Judas from betraying Jesus but he didn’t.

    I believe in an all-powerful God who can stop anything from crossing our path. However there are many times He doesn’t yet we can trust Him because he is a good God and He is in control of everything.

    Hope this helps explain what I meant.

  16. Hello anonymous,
    You have made several good points here. My comment, God allows bad things to happen to good people, was actually a reference to a book that has been very popular called, when bad things happen to good people. I probably should have made that clearer.

    I agree no one is good – Jesus himself said so and I agree people have choices and often make bad choices which hurt other people.

    However I also believe God has the power to intervene and protect people from “bad things” even the bad choices of others. I know of times when He has but I also know of times when He has not.

    Therefore what I am saying here is that God could have intervened here and stopped Judas from betraying Jesus but he didn’t.

    I believe in an all-powerful God who can stop anything from crossing our path. However there are many times He doesn’t yet we can trust Him because he is a good God and He is in control of everything.

    Hope this helps explain what I meant.

  17. v.5 After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.

    Jesus must have washed Judas' feet too.

  18. v.5 After that, he poured water into a basin and began to wash his disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel that was wrapped around him.

    Jesus must have washed Judas' feet too.

  19. v.10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet; their whole body is clean.

    Jesus speaks of two "cleansing". A bath and a washing of feet.

    Perhaps a bath symbolizes what happens when we receive God's forgivenness for the first time. And the foot washing symbolizes the cleansing our daily sins.

  20. v.10 Jesus answered, “Those who have had a bath need only to wash their feet; their whole body is clean.

    Jesus speaks of two "cleansing". A bath and a washing of feet.

    Perhaps a bath symbolizes what happens when we receive God's forgivenness for the first time. And the foot washing symbolizes the cleansing our daily sins.

  21. v.23 One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved…

    (From Constable Commentary) "John was not claiming that Jesus loved him more than the other disciples by describing himself this way. Rather the description reveals his appreciation for God's grace in loving him as He did. He focused the reader's attention on Jesus more forcefully by omitting his own name."

  22. v.23 One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved…

    (From Constable Commentary) "John was not claiming that Jesus loved him more than the other disciples by describing himself this way. Rather the description reveals his appreciation for God's grace in loving him as He did. He focused the reader's attention on Jesus more forcefully by omitting his own name."

  23. v.35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.

    Loving one another is not usual so it will be noticed.

  24. v.35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.

    Loving one another is not usual so it will be noticed.

  25. v.3 Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; so he got up from the meal…

    We serve from a position of knowing who we are.

  26. v.3 Jesus knew that the Father had put all things under his power, and that he had come from God and was returning to God; so he got up from the meal…

    We serve from a position of knowing who we are.

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